1 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:09,049 yes I apologize it's a very very long 2 00:00:11,390 --> 00:00:10,260 title so I'm not going to read it in 3 00:00:15,369 --> 00:00:11,400 waste my time we'll just call it 4 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:15,379 microbes that eat rock underground so 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:18,090 this is not my title my advisor likes to 6 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:22,010 be very descriptive so we'll move on so 7 00:00:26,330 --> 00:00:24,510 just as a general introduction we all 8 00:00:29,419 --> 00:00:26,340 know that the earth is you know cut 9 00:00:32,060 --> 00:00:29,429 composed of igneous rocks that are rich 10 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:32,070 in reduced compounds such as reduced 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:35,880 iron and this iron is a essentially a 12 00:00:42,290 --> 00:00:37,770 very vast energy reservoir for 13 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:42,300 microorganisms and so there's been a lot 14 00:00:46,819 --> 00:00:44,760 of work recently really focusing on the 15 00:00:50,090 --> 00:00:46,829 ability of microorganisms to use 16 00:00:52,549 --> 00:00:50,100 structural iron in in silicate minerals 17 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:52,559 as an energy source and I've just 18 00:01:01,279 --> 00:00:55,199 highlighted 22 studies here that a kind 19 00:01:02,569 --> 00:01:01,289 of basis of this work where my fingers 20 00:01:07,039 --> 00:01:02,579 in the right spot look at this I could 21 00:01:11,149 --> 00:01:07,049 follow directions is so in this study by 22 00:01:12,380 --> 00:01:11,159 Alexis well Bailey and you know so 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:12,390 Alexis Templeton here this is actually 24 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:14,490 an isolate that I have that I'm trying 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:16,710 to play with a little bit they've 26 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:19,890 demonstrated on this is actually an 27 00:01:24,620 --> 00:01:21,390 amorphous it's not a you know 28 00:01:27,410 --> 00:01:24,630 crystalline mineral but definitely 29 00:01:28,990 --> 00:01:27,420 increased cell densities so they 30 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:29,000 demonstrated in both of these cases 31 00:01:36,399 --> 00:01:32,100 colonization of either an amorphous or a 32 00:01:39,770 --> 00:01:36,409 kristalyn iron iron bearing compound and 33 00:01:42,170 --> 00:01:39,780 this is great work but what it doesn't 34 00:01:44,210 --> 00:01:42,180 really tell us is anything about the 35 00:01:45,859 --> 00:01:44,220 mineralogy or about what's happening to 36 00:01:48,260 --> 00:01:45,869 the mineral or how is this actually 37 00:01:50,330 --> 00:01:48,270 working yes we've demonstrated that we 38 00:01:52,999 --> 00:01:50,340 do definitely see colonization by 39 00:01:56,170 --> 00:01:53,009 microorganisms but we have to go a step 40 00:01:59,149 --> 00:01:56,180 further beyond that and actually 41 00:02:00,260 --> 00:01:59,159 synthesize this in doing more coherent 42 00:02:03,709 --> 00:02:00,270 picture we have to look at more than 43 00:02:06,999 --> 00:02:03,719 just cell numbers right so in this study 44 00:02:09,949 --> 00:02:07,009 this is out of my group at Matt 45 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:09,959 but before my time so this is this 46 00:02:15,949 --> 00:02:13,280 predates me but this is really a 47 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:15,959 fundamental component to what I want to 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:19,650 do and in addition to just tracking yes 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:21,450 cells are increasing that's good your 50 00:02:25,550 --> 00:02:23,010 cells are growing but we're also 51 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:25,560 tracking a loss of iron from the mineral 52 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:28,260 so iron that's good the irons going away 53 00:02:35,390 --> 00:02:32,520 and this is a nitrate reducing condition 54 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:35,400 so you're losing nitrate so synthesizing 55 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:37,200 all of these things together not only do 56 00:02:41,090 --> 00:02:39,510 we just see higher cell densities but we 57 00:02:44,870 --> 00:02:41,100 also see a loss of iron from the mineral 58 00:02:46,460 --> 00:02:44,880 structure and then by really 59 00:02:49,550 --> 00:02:46,470 interrogating the mineral so this is the 60 00:02:51,860 --> 00:02:49,560 mineral biotite we're actually seeing 61 00:02:53,860 --> 00:02:51,870 mineralogical changes in the presence of 62 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:53,870 these bacteria and you can track that 63 00:02:59,060 --> 00:02:57,120 the increase of potassium the culture 64 00:03:01,100 --> 00:02:59,070 that's expulsion of your inner layer 65 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:01,110 cations do the oxidation of the 66 00:03:04,699 --> 00:03:03,150 structural iron in this mineral so 67 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:04,709 that's another piece of evidence that 68 00:03:09,979 --> 00:03:07,440 we're having mineralogical alteration in 69 00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:09,989 the presence of these bacteria so this 70 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:14,190 is really cool and based on all of that 71 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:16,290 evidence we have this proposed mechanism 72 00:03:22,009 --> 00:03:20,489 behind the structural oxidation in in a 73 00:03:24,979 --> 00:03:22,019 very simple scenario you could just 74 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:24,989 imagine you have some mineral abiotic ly 75 00:03:31,009 --> 00:03:29,220 dissolving right just poop the the 76 00:03:34,250 --> 00:03:31,019 reduced iron pops out of the mineral 77 00:03:37,610 --> 00:03:34,260 through a abiotic process the micro says 78 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:37,620 yum that's delicious and then you know 79 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:42,180 oxidizes it however this previous 80 00:03:47,289 --> 00:03:45,060 experiment was done under a circle 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:47,299 neutral pH and these minerals are not 82 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:50,130 you know the dissolution is not that 83 00:03:55,819 --> 00:03:51,690 rapid they're essentially they just set 84 00:03:57,860 --> 00:03:55,829 there so you could think of another 85 00:04:01,099 --> 00:03:57,870 situation which is a which is our kind 86 00:04:03,650 --> 00:04:01,109 of favored hypothesis is this is a 87 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:03,660 direct enzymatic attack on the mineral 88 00:04:09,349 --> 00:04:05,880 surface and this is not that far-fetched 89 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:09,359 we see this in iron reducers you know 90 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:11,040 you can think everybody's favorite iron 91 00:04:16,099 --> 00:04:13,350 reducer geobacter right you can think 92 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:16,109 they have this it's a direct enzymatic 93 00:04:19,890 --> 00:04:18,449 attack right these outer membrane 94 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:19,900 proteins that's what the OM 95 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:24,340 he is here that engage in the shuttling 96 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:26,770 of electrons so these are genomic Lee 97 00:04:30,990 --> 00:04:28,870 encoded outer membrane proteins that are 98 00:04:33,689 --> 00:04:31,000 involved in the extracellular electron 99 00:04:35,610 --> 00:04:33,699 transport of iron so this is this is the 100 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:35,620 idea based on the evidence we don't 101 00:04:39,719 --> 00:04:37,720 think these are abiotic processes that 102 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:39,729 just a biotic dissolution coupled to 103 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:43,120 iron oxidation we think that it's it's a 104 00:04:48,659 --> 00:04:47,289 direct enzymatic attack so this of 105 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:48,669 course i have to i do have to give my 106 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:51,190 nod to astrobiology right so there's all 107 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:53,050 urine on Mars or something someone tells 108 00:04:58,500 --> 00:04:57,010 me that um so I've heard I've heard this 109 00:05:02,879 --> 00:04:58,510 rumor that there's a you know iron on 110 00:05:04,860 --> 00:05:02,889 Mars so this this really cool paper here 111 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:04,870 just theoretically crunching the numbers 112 00:05:10,129 --> 00:05:07,510 based on iron iron based Litha trophy 113 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:10,139 alone could have given us just 20 114 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:12,490 approximately 20 grams per per 115 00:05:15,930 --> 00:05:14,320 centimeter of biota over the course of 116 00:05:17,999 --> 00:05:15,940 Martian history just based on the 117 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:18,009 alteration of of the iron bearing 118 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:23,800 mineral phases so cool right so there's 119 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:26,260 there's your relevance but what we 120 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:29,199 really want to do is is test this in a 121 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:32,380 field setting right so these laboratory 122 00:05:38,159 --> 00:05:35,710 studies and theoretical calculations are 123 00:05:39,930 --> 00:05:38,169 great but we want to take it to quote 124 00:05:42,689 --> 00:05:39,940 nature right let's let's go let's go to 125 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:42,699 nature and I tell you this was terrible 126 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:44,740 this was a terrible place to go so I 127 00:05:49,170 --> 00:05:47,050 just got back so I don't really have a 128 00:05:51,089 --> 00:05:49,180 lot of really cool data for you but so 129 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:51,099 we went to the leaky amount lens or I 130 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:52,810 went to the leaky Oh mountains in Puerto 131 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:55,120 Rico this is a critical zone observatory 132 00:05:59,790 --> 00:05:58,000 and I know it's not a basalt so please 133 00:06:01,950 --> 00:05:59,800 don't give me grief about that okay I 134 00:06:05,219 --> 00:06:01,960 realize this is not a basalt this is a 135 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:05,229 grano diorite and but it does have an 136 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:06,940 appreciable way percent of iron varying 137 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:08,610 phases such as biotite and hornblende 138 00:06:14,129 --> 00:06:12,430 the really really remarkable thing about 139 00:06:18,659 --> 00:06:14,139 this is how fast this thing is 140 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:18,669 weathering this is the most well one of 141 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:21,340 the most rapid weathering waits for a 142 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:23,199 granitic material that's ever been 143 00:06:26,939 --> 00:06:25,360 recorded this thing the separately 144 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:26,949 advance rate on this thing is on the 145 00:06:31,230 --> 00:06:29,529 order of 58 meters per million years if 146 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:31,240 you aren't familiar with weathering 147 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:33,370 rates that's an order of magnitude 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:35,620 ster than the global average for for a 149 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:37,690 granitic system and that's partially 150 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:39,820 attributed to climate illogical 151 00:06:43,409 --> 00:06:41,680 variables high temperature high 152 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:43,419 precipitation this is a rain forest 153 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:47,889 after all and as well as topography but 154 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:50,110 what you see you know so it's weathering 155 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:53,050 typical typical granite weather's like 156 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:55,210 an onion skins periodically and that's 157 00:07:00,420 --> 00:06:58,330 driven by the initial oxidation of the 158 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:00,430 structural iron in biotype and that 159 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:04,360 leads to expansion of the the D layer so 160 00:07:07,980 --> 00:07:06,250 you get eventually fracturing and then 161 00:07:09,629 --> 00:07:07,990 it's just a runaway process from there 162 00:07:11,689 --> 00:07:09,639 but the initial step in this weathering 163 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:11,699 is actually the oxidation of biotite and 164 00:07:16,980 --> 00:07:14,050 then the rapid dissolution of the other 165 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:16,990 by other iron bearing phase which is 166 00:07:25,469 --> 00:07:22,630 hornblende so there's evidence that not 167 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:25,479 only is this you know weathering very 168 00:07:30,930 --> 00:07:28,510 quickly because it is that microbes may 169 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:30,940 be playing a role here and this was 170 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:33,840 essentially this 2005 paper was my Bible 171 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:37,930 so my my entire work thus far is based 172 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:41,440 on this kind of theoretical paper that 173 00:07:46,469 --> 00:07:43,840 maybe maybe it's microbes so what you're 174 00:07:49,379 --> 00:07:46,479 looking at is you see a loss of iron so 175 00:07:52,170 --> 00:07:49,389 at depth this okay so this is a let me 176 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:52,180 back up this is a surficial expression 177 00:07:55,469 --> 00:07:53,680 of what's happening underground there's 178 00:07:58,279 --> 00:07:55,479 a recent landslides that exposed this 179 00:08:01,020 --> 00:07:58,289 normally this is the the saprolite 180 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:01,030 bedrock interface is variable but 181 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:04,710 usually five to eight meters depth so 182 00:08:10,020 --> 00:08:08,260 yeah should clarify so this is at five 183 00:08:11,850 --> 00:08:10,030 meters and then you see up through the 184 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:11,860 sap relay you see a depletion and iron 185 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:14,590 but what's really interesting is the the 186 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:15,910 cell count so you have high cell 187 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:19,930 densities at the surface right okay no 188 00:08:23,969 --> 00:08:21,849 big deal and then you move down through 189 00:08:25,860 --> 00:08:23,979 the saprolite you see this wiggle right 190 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:25,870 here I'll talk about that in just a 191 00:08:30,270 --> 00:08:28,150 second but down again right here so this 192 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:30,280 is DNA counts or DNA yield and direct 193 00:08:34,199 --> 00:08:32,050 counts you start getting close to that 194 00:08:37,199 --> 00:08:34,209 rock and you start seeing increased cell 195 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:37,209 densities again and these are also have 196 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:39,810 those little I Bart's their deeds 197 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:43,120 biogeochemical tests or biochemical 198 00:08:45,940 --> 00:08:45,430 tests for iron related bacteria how much 199 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:45,950 stock you 200 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:48,350 but in those I'm not really sure but 201 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:50,450 taken together this suggests that we 202 00:08:54,970 --> 00:08:52,790 have this conceptual model again 203 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:54,980 surficial expression of a subsurface 204 00:09:00,190 --> 00:08:57,890 process this is a road cut so this would 205 00:09:02,260 --> 00:09:00,200 be a course tone of the grano diorite 206 00:09:04,810 --> 00:09:02,270 it's fractured because it was blessed 207 00:09:06,670 --> 00:09:04,820 with dynamite to make the road but on 208 00:09:08,620 --> 00:09:06,680 top of it you see the dinner plate 209 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:08,630 stacked like Ryan lids that are 210 00:09:13,060 --> 00:09:09,920 associated with the spheroid of 211 00:09:14,140 --> 00:09:13,070 weathering and then conceptually you 212 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:14,150 know so you have the bedrock you have 213 00:09:19,270 --> 00:09:16,370 the reignwood sown and then you're 214 00:09:21,340 --> 00:09:19,280 separated so you can calculate the 215 00:09:23,710 --> 00:09:21,350 amount of biomass based on the free 216 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:23,720 energy and you can actually produce more 217 00:09:28,510 --> 00:09:26,480 cells at depth based on the upward flux 218 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:28,520 of iron out of the rock then you can buy 219 00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:31,330 the downward flux of carbon so these are 220 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:35,990 probably with the tropes so um that's 221 00:09:40,690 --> 00:09:38,630 our hypothesis is that through a direct 222 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:40,700 enzymatic attack on the mineral surface 223 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:42,650 these microbes these iron oxidizing 224 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:44,450 bacteria are going to play a direct role 225 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:45,980 in the rapid weathering of the sport's 226 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:48,770 diorite and metagenomic characterization 227 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:50,510 of the Institute community is going to 228 00:09:55,230 --> 00:09:52,610 lend insight into this process and we're 229 00:09:58,540 --> 00:09:55,240 also going to do some culturing to 230 00:10:00,640 --> 00:09:58,550 determine you know or to show a 231 00:10:02,530 --> 00:10:00,650 selective colonization of the the 232 00:10:04,930 --> 00:10:02,540 mineral surfaces so this is the real 233 00:10:06,580 --> 00:10:04,940 rock this one doesn't exist anymore I 234 00:10:08,620 --> 00:10:06,590 crust it with the old s wing and threw 235 00:10:14,050 --> 00:10:08,630 it in some artificial ground water but 236 00:10:15,670 --> 00:10:14,060 so we took three cores again the 237 00:10:18,610 --> 00:10:15,680 separate light is variable in thickness 238 00:10:23,020 --> 00:10:18,620 basically did this with the hand auger 239 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:23,030 until you couldn't go anymore and so 240 00:10:27,070 --> 00:10:25,310 again it's variable but we sampled 241 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:27,080 periodically down through the satellite 242 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:30,410 profile aseptic Lee for microbiologic 243 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:33,230 and genomic analysis in what I'm doing 244 00:10:37,090 --> 00:10:35,360 right now is I set up in Richmond 245 00:10:38,980 --> 00:10:37,100 cultures this is a very wordy slide I 246 00:10:41,770 --> 00:10:38,990 realize that but we're using an 247 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:41,780 artificial ground water so they all they 248 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:44,690 get they get water they get minerals and 249 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:47,510 they get co2 that is it that's all they 250 00:10:53,830 --> 00:10:50,150 have in nature so that's all they're 251 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:53,840 getting here and so I did I actually use 252 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:55,370 the parent material the grano diorite 253 00:10:58,060 --> 00:10:57,410 and because it's a very trendy thing to 254 00:11:00,790 --> 00:10:58,070 do I did 255 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:00,800 deconstructed menu where I took the the 256 00:11:04,990 --> 00:11:02,510 grand old IRA and split it into its 257 00:11:08,260 --> 00:11:05,000 components the hornblende of biotite 258 00:11:11,460 --> 00:11:08,270 that elbaite courts and these are this 259 00:11:13,930 --> 00:11:11,470 muscovites of control for another reason 260 00:11:15,220 --> 00:11:13,940 but so we're just monitoring them over 261 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:15,230 time their illicit ropes they grow 262 00:11:18,940 --> 00:11:17,570 slowly I don't have any evidence that 263 00:11:23,020 --> 00:11:18,950 they're growing at all right now but 264 00:11:24,370 --> 00:11:23,030 it's only been maybe a month so at the 265 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:24,380 end of the day we are going to go after 266 00:11:28,420 --> 00:11:26,480 them and hopefully they're going to grow 267 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:28,430 right cheer them on say please grow 268 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:33,410 please grow oh okay and then also the 269 00:11:37,060 --> 00:11:35,090 really kind of cool part about this the 270 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:37,070 part that I hope to tell you more about 271 00:11:41,710 --> 00:11:40,370 later is the meta genomics and what we 272 00:11:43,780 --> 00:11:41,720 want to do remember this direct 273 00:11:46,450 --> 00:11:43,790 enzymatic attack these are genomically 274 00:11:48,910 --> 00:11:46,460 encoded extracellular on transport jeans 275 00:11:52,750 --> 00:11:48,920 and so we know how do we know how to 276 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:52,760 find these right these this is these 277 00:11:57,730 --> 00:11:55,790 diagrams are from Xiaomei shamans paper 278 00:12:00,160 --> 00:11:57,740 she's in our research group to actually 279 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:00,170 mine these genomes and look for these 280 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:02,270 types of extracellular electron 281 00:12:06,670 --> 00:12:04,370 transport pathways that will tell us 282 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:06,680 hopefully that yes you are right we are 283 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:09,290 with the troves so this is this is 284 00:12:13,990 --> 00:12:11,810 ongoing work that I'm trying to do right 285 00:12:16,330 --> 00:12:14,000 now it's kind of hard to get a lot of 286 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:16,340 good high quality genomic DNA out of 287 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:17,930 something that's loaded up with kale and 288 00:12:25,210 --> 00:12:21,170 I in iron oxide and is low biomass to 289 00:12:27,790 --> 00:12:25,220 begin with so here's hoping all right so 290 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:27,800 some conclusions and in the interest of 291 00:12:39,130 --> 00:12:34,210 time I'm still working on it and so 292 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:39,140 thank you especially NASA NSF in this 293 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:41,900 ezo program and my collaborators and 294 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:01,490 questions for Stephanie so I'm just 295 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:04,890 curious the enzymatic attack is 296 00:13:09,140 --> 00:13:06,510 contributing to the fast weathering Greg 297 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:09,150 that's that's the idea idea yeah okay 298 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:12,030 but they're growing extremely slow so 299 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:14,370 how do you reconcile that so okay so 300 00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:18,240 this is based on ok so I'm geologic time 301 00:13:22,910 --> 00:13:21,300 I'd be so I'm growing in 50 grams right 302 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:22,920 but you have I don't know what the 303 00:13:27,170 --> 00:13:25,530 volumetric equivalent or what it would 304 00:13:30,770 --> 00:13:27,180 be on this on this pluton I have no idea 305 00:13:32,540 --> 00:13:30,780 volumetrically how big it is but if they 306 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:32,550 turn over if there's a lot of them and 307 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:34,950 they turn over maybe once a month or 308 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:37,050 even once every two weeks which elicits 309 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:39,120 rows are slow growers yeah it's not 310 00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:42,180 entirely unreasonable and I've also just 311 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:44,400 kind of at a first pass level done a 312 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:46,530 little bit of like reactor transport 313 00:13:52,010 --> 00:13:48,810 modeling and based on like just general 314 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:52,020 dissolution rates I would have to I have 315 00:13:56,210 --> 00:13:53,880 to do something very crazy that I just 316 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:56,220 don't think is geologically appropriate 317 00:14:00,790 --> 00:13:58,890 to actually try to fit a match to the 318 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:00,800 observed weathering right we see here so 319 00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:03,330 we don't unfortunately have a number we 320 00:14:10,190 --> 00:14:06,630 can plug in there's no iron oxidizing 321 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:10,200 like go this fast to throw into a model 322 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:15,120 unfortunately a quick follow-up so are 323 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:17,370 there like biofilms growing on the 324 00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:18,930 surfaces of the rocks like what's this 325 00:14:26,660 --> 00:14:22,620 obviously um some of the other work that 326 00:14:29,810 --> 00:14:26,670 I didn't show here is there's holy site 327 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:29,820 nano tubules there there's microbes you 328 00:14:34,730 --> 00:14:31,470 can see cells associated with the 329 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:34,740 mineral phases but in the interest of 330 00:14:39,650 --> 00:14:36,150 time I didn't drag you through all of 331 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:39,660 the background information so you got 332 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:44,370 one back there does an increase of the 333 00:14:49,130 --> 00:14:47,010 thought raphy of actually a mineral 334 00:14:54,380 --> 00:14:49,140 consumption mean an increase of micro 335 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:54,390 production so in increase in with the 336 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:57,690 trophy and then an increase in cells is 337 00:15:01,800 --> 00:14:59,920 that is a question basically just be 338 00:15:03,449 --> 00:15:01,810 there's more of an iron source does that 339 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:03,459 mean is that doesn't mean we'll find 340 00:15:07,050 --> 00:15:05,529 these there'll be more microbes yeah so 341 00:15:09,810 --> 00:15:07,060 just simple free energy right so if you 342 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:09,820 have more more iron to oxidize you can 343 00:15:13,650 --> 00:15:11,610 build more cells just at the most basic 344 00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:13,660 thermodynamic level then yes that would